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  1. says:

    Everybody is prejudiced about Savonarola for or against everyone there's nobody in the world who's heard his name who doesn't have a bias I've read so many things that are hagiographies and things that are attacks that it's really refreshing to re read this one which is measured calm full of names and specific

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    Depending on who you ask Savonarola was a saint a martyr or he was a fanatical extremist who subjected Renaissance Florence into a four year reign of terror He was a tyrant or a promoter of republicanism He was a prophet or a self aggrandizing liar If I had to guess I'd say he was probably all of them I am not a fan of the guy at all but he's one of those historical figures that's so enshrouded in myth that what you think about him probably

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    Girolamo Savonarola was either the prophet of the Protestant Reformation or the Mad Friar of Florence The only bits I knew about him w

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    This book tells a great story reasonably well but becomes shockingly repetitive at points and gets bogged down in unnecessary detailsSavonarola was the fire breathing Dominican monk who in 1494 encouraged the overthrow of the Medici

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    Girolamo Savonarola was a complicated character compassionate wise intelligent and deeply religious However he made many glaring errors during his brief time in power 1494 1498 he supported the French King Charles VIII; he defied the pope Alexander VI Rodrigo Borgia yes that family; he alienated many powerful Florentines; and finally there was the trial by fire proposed by a rival preacher which proved to be the final straw I alre

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    Martines prides himself in being opposed to all mystifications This may be the source of one of the main problems in the Florentine story about Savonarola As the Dominican Savonarola was exerting his power through sermons understan

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    In short Talks a lot says very littleA little longer Know how one is able to discern the meaning of a word through its context within a sentence or paragraph And as words whose meaning is a mystery are added to th

  8. says:

    Savonarola was a profoundly interesting person It surprises me how little is written about him because he and his writings

  9. says:

    Fascinating story poorly written

  10. says:

    I can't take any Herzen Marx or Stalin at the moment so I though a bit of Savonarola might afford a few days' diversion We'll see Nothing like a fire eating fundamentalist

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The City Kindle #207 When the City Savonarola and eBook #9734 the King of France invaded Italy in princely states would fall sending tremors up and down the peninsula The Medici fled from Florence the republic sprang back to life and the French army occupying the Renaissance city for ten terrifying days stood on the verge of sacking it A 'little friar' from Ferrara Savonarola was alone in knowing how to in the City Savonarola and ePUB #192 comfort citizens with his sermons Fire in MOBI #224 and in urging the King to get out of FlorenceAlthough the French left a city riven by political factions the Friar's popular 'par Girolamo Savonarola was either the prophet of the Protestant Reformation or the Mad Friar of Florence The only bits I knew about him were that he helped to expel the Medici from Florence and that he was hanged and then burned at the stake which was better than just being burned Normally my lack of knowledge wouldn t make me hustle to find a book about an unknown subject But since I was stuck at a dinner between two diners who were actually arguing about this dude it was an awful dinner they should have been arguing about that I thought I should educate myself That s right Other people have dinner party conversations about politics or sports while I get some weird Renaissance era religious freak Plus my lamb chop was burnt so I basically starved that night Needless to say I held a grudge against the friar they shoot dice rush through Masses thirst for money and accompany the dead for ducats not out of charity Some keep boys while others keep concubines and are the slaves of love Savonarola on the Roman Catholic Church in 1490The Mad FriarReformation Prophet was a major figure in Renaissance Florence He saw what the Medici and their money had done to corrupt just about everyone yet he boldly spoke out against them He definitely had guts It was Savonarola who predicted a future leader from the North would reform the church Martin Luther took that role and it was Savonarola who refused to be cowed by the Vatican s power Yet he wasn t a full revolutionary He believed people should keep to the social stations they were born into and he accepted the social hierarchy of the times He just wanted the Catholic Church to clean up its act Unfortunately he chose the wrong city Like the Venetians and Genoese for example the Florentines had long seen themselves as special people favoured by GodAfter pushing out the Medici he managed to be the ruler for a bit until the populace tired of his puritanical ways Back came the ruling clans and to the gallows and stake went the friar I felt for him While there was no doubt he was probably a pain in the butt he at least understood how rotten the Church and its leaders were Plus he also saw through the standard ploy the elite always use to gain popular support support us and we ll give you some jobs Yet Savonarola wasn t a Mao or Stalin His mistake was to believe the French King Charles VIII was the Great Reformer Bad choiceThis is a very good book to learn about the subject and also to understand why Florence iswasalways will be Florence The writing didn t set me on fire whoops but I can now hold my own if that atrocious dinner party ever relives itself And people wonder why I m happy with nachosBook Season Winter extinguish the bonfires

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Ty' swiftly prevailed With Florence at the height of its Renaissance glories his voice rose above those of all other men Claiming to be a messenger from God he attacked evils on all sides a mercenary Church the despotism of the Medici vile political elites and in the City Epub #181 Pope Alexander VI Rodrigo Borgia whose name itself was a byword for brazen corruption Savonarola foretold a universal 'scourging' but made pleas above all for the renewal of Christianity and for the political voice of the people His struggle turned into a battle for the 'soul' of FlorenceExcommunicated and silenced Savonarola spurned Rome a Martines prides himself in being opposed to all mystifications This may be the source of one of the main problems in the Florentine story about Savonarola As the Dominican Savonarola was exerting his power through sermons understanding the mythical messages seems paramount After the first 100 pages or so of a hard to read translation I felt left in the dark as to what the conflict was all about Given that fifteenth century Florence is one of my favorite research areas and that I am not a novice to Savonarola this needs explainingAt the end of the fifteenth century a greater conflict was in motion The nascent nation states were in an exploration frenzy to expand their colonial influence over newfound territories in North and South America The Jews had to leave Spain within three months in an indescribable Holocaust and the Italian Peninsula was flooded with Melchite Saracens fleeing the forced conversions in Spain Plague and famine shook the foundations of Florence which seems to also have had a magnetic attraction for the refugees The papacy and all of Italy were in sheer uproar The pope faced an intellectual challenge like none other before but not from Savonarola A Renaissance man by the name of Pico della Mirandola had found an entirely new way of absorbing everything there was to learn be it Christian Jewish Zoroastrian or Muslim Mirandola s systematic approach opened up all frontiers and breached all restraints that had been imposed by the church Achievement became the focal point Having carried his ideas to the center of spiritual evil in Rome he had made sure that his words fell on fruitful groundsSavonarola was at the other end of Mirandola s views his intention was to establish Florence as a New Jerusalem and his claim was that God himself had spoken to him The implication of this can be derived from the context from which the Book of Revelations in the New Testament was born In the New Jerusalem the Christians expected the kingdom of heaven to be established in Jerusalem where the book of Revelations promised free booze plenty of food and eternal life without worries Hence Savonarola was an apocalyptic radical who glorified poverty called for the termination of those that thought differently and pulled the political strings from behind the scenes Instead of global context and curiosity which would have helped in better understanding the preacher Savonarola the author seems lost in details For example Martines is talking at length about a group of demons but seems to dismiss them as superstitions Instead there is an apocalyptic wave of purification of the faith by the innocent eg Savonarola s followers against those that endorsed wealth and sensuality the demons These real demons had been in control of Florence before the Medici and needed rooting out so the plan went What was the Holy League about Rome Venice Milan and Spain Why would Florence support the French and not the Holy League Why had they driven out the Medici What were Savonarola s predictions and why were they offensive There were five leading churches in Florence among 70 what were their doctrinal differences and their role for or against Savonarola Having said that the shortcoming is not Martines s it is one of a profession that is still impressed by the bias of a socio economic history that was brought about by the Catholic Church The author notes where the Florentine records of history were destroyed in a most thorough manner and under threat of excommunication immediately after Savonarola s pulverization and shoveling into the Arno River They knew exactly what they were doing in preventing relics to keep Savonarola alive The book turns good no excellent when the time comes to sack Savonarola s church San Marco to arrest Savonarola as an impostor and to see a prophet fall through the insults and kicks of a mob angered by an anticipated miracle that had gone sour to put the preacher on show trial and finally on the stakes Martines finally manages to pull the reader into the story and bring it to life with just enough detail as to keep the narrative engaging and exciting The conclusions might as well be skipped Was Savonarola a terrorist Let me answer this with a counter uestion Is the fundamental Muslim teacher Anwar al Awlaki currently an imam hiding in Yemen s hinterland a terrorist US President Obama s commissioned murder mission surely suggests so if not by implication of participation in terrorist attacks then by providing the intellectual framework for the violent missions Savonarola glorified poverty and called for the stoning of sodomists as in the modern Taliban This is an unacceptable hatred against mankind regardless of the political and ecclesiastical context Spiritual leaders of the time were no less aware of their destructive power than those modern Awlakis This book should be rewritten in modern English put in a global context and better chronology I love chronology cleansed from an onslaught of unnecessary names and complemented with the spiritual side of Savonarola s teachings The author has the skills to unlock a truly fascinating mystery of the time with the potential for a hit in history books Why Because the book beautifully carves out how a narrow majority was able to take and loose power and how both majorities acted with cruelty against their foes all within less than a decade It demonstrates how an influential preacher can recruit an army with thousands of children turning them into extremist servants of God in an astonishingly brief time span and in the shadow of trusting parents The book shows how the institution of the confession can act as an information hub the whispering network of ecclesiastical power It suggests that religious preachers have a competitive advantage with a clear and narrow mission against a notoriously fragmented opposition and that entire cities can welcome religiosity in times of calamities On the stage of democratic politics it lays out how voting by name compromise the system s integrity and how the masses were or maybe are manipulated easily AJ Deus author of The Great Leap Fraud Social Economics of Religious Terrorismajdeusorg

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Nd began to preach again retaining the strong support of the city republic As the in the City Savonarola and ePUB #192 Pope and Medicean conspirators closed in on him five prominent Florentines were beheaded for plotting against the state further inflaming the passions already rife in the city After an abortive trial by fire to shame and discredit him his enemies set siege to his convent leading to his arrest and trial on trumped up charges of heresySavonarola mingled the fervour of religion with the ardour of republican politics Scourge and Fire is the story of his impact on Florence and of the city's spell over him Fascinating story poorly written