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F #180 organizations supervising the children's language education running the compound and caring for the elderly men She longs to retire to the Barren House where women past childbearing age knit chat and wait to die What Nazareth comes to discover is that a slow revolution is going on in the Barren Houses there word by word women are creating a language of their own to free them from men's contro. I enjoyed it the first time I read it I ve studied Linguistics myself which made it interesting and I occasionally enjoy re reading But the re reads expose and holes in the plot that get and irritatingHow on earth did the US constitution get amended at a time when women still had the vote And why does a change to the US constitution apparently affect the whole worldWhy do Linguists live so austerely as a public relations measure when they can see for themselves that it doesn t workIf there s nobody on Earth who can speak Alien Language X how do the Linguists persuade an alien who speaks it to come and live in their Interface and teach it to a human baby What does the wretched alien do all day when it s not talking to a baby If the languages are being learnt by babies and toddlers how do they become so proficient in all the vocabulary and cultural nuances that never come up in the conversations of babies and toddlersAnd if Teenager Y is the only person in the universe apart from a couple of toddlers who speaks both X and English where do the dictionaries come from that the second best backups look things up inAnd how view spoiler when the men towards the end spotted all the charming concepts the little girls were coming up with did those men know what the girls were talking about if the girls were talking in Laadan If they weren t why weren t they Are we supposed to believe the girls were talking about Laadan which we know they knew was top secret in front of their fathers in a language their fathers understood Why would they use a long winded English or whatever paraphrase for a concept when they d got a language that expressed it one word hide spoiler KING ve studied Linguistics myself which made it interesting and I occasionally enjoy re reading But the re reads expose and holes in the plot that get and irritatingHow on earth did the US constitution get amended at a time when women still had the Ty jesteś moje imię vote And why does a change to the US constitution apparently affect the whole worldWhy do Linguists live so austerely as a public relations measure when they can see for themselves that it doesn t workIf there s nobody on Earth who can speak Alien Language X how do the Linguists persuade an alien who speaks it to come and live in their Interface and teach it to a human baby What does the wretched alien do all day when it s not talking to a baby If the languages are being learnt by babies and toddlers how do they become so proficient in all the The Many Lives of Fitzwilliam Darcy vocabulary and cultural nuances that never come up in the conversations of babies and toddlersAnd if Teenager Y is the only person in the universe apart from a couple of toddlers who speaks both X and English where do the dictionaries come from that the second best backups look things up inAnd how Complete Amber Sourcebook view spoiler when the men towards the end spotted all the charming concepts the little girls were coming up with did those men know what the girls were talking about if the girls were talking in Laadan If they weren t why weren t they Are we supposed to believe the girls were talking about Laadan which we know they knew was top secret in front of their fathers in a language their fathers understood Why would they use a long winded English or whatever paraphrase for a concept when they d got a language that expressed it one word hide spoiler

Review á PDF, DOC, TXT, eBook or Kindle ePUB free Ò Suzette Haden Elgin

Called fascinating by the New York Native Tongue eBook #8608 Times upon its first publication in Native Tongue won wide critical praise and cult status and has often been compared to the futurist fiction of Margaret Atwood Set in the twenty second century the novel tells of a world where women are once again property denied civil rights and banned from Native Tongue eBook #198 public life Earth's we. Absolutely excellent I know The Handmaid s Tale gets press and praise but this is a far realistic and chilling misogynist future There s really so much meaty stuff and I m so far from elouent that I ll just say read it and leave it at that

Suzette Haden Elgin Ò 2 Review

Alth depends on interplanetary commerce with alien races and linguists a small clannish group of families have become the ruling elite by controlling all interplanetary communication Their women are used to breed perfect translators for all the galaxies' languagesNazareth Chornyak the most talented linguist of the family is exhausted by her constant work translating for trade Tongue Native Tongue PD. I first bought a copy of this book around the time that my poetry collection A History of the Cetacean American Diaspora placed second in the 2017 Elgin Awards an annual award bestowed on books of poetry by the Science Fiction and Fantasy Poetry Association SFPA The Elgin Awards are named in honor of author Suzette Haden Elgin who founded the SFPA in 1978 Although I already knew some things about Elgin at the time I wanted to learn about her and so I made it a project to spend some time over the coming months with her most famous work the 1984 cult classic novel Native TongueOf all other books Native Tongue probably gets compared most often to Margaret Atwood s The Handmaid s Tale which came out only one year later in 1985 both novels imagine a dystopian future in which women have been stripped of their rights and must revert to being treated as chattel by men Feminist science fiction is not the only subgenre of science fiction Elgin pioneered in Native Tongue though Elgin also blazed a trail in how she envisioned the expanded role linguists might play in future civilizations as the need for humans to communicate effectively with extraterrestrials becomes a reality It might be argued that without Elgin s Native Tongue we would not have say Ted Chiang s Story of Your Life the linguist centering 1998 short story that inspired the acclaimed movie Arrival Elgin s fable of women furtively working together to invent a new language that will bring about their liberation is a tremendous novel of ideas one that like Chiang s story a decade later explores the implications of the Sapir Whorf hypothesis in a dizzyingly original wayAnd if you re worried that being heavy on ideas might make Native Tongue dull you can rest easy Elgin s characterizations are lively and the book is stuffed so full of dramatic incident murder kidnapping conspiracy nefarious government men doing the creepy things nefarious government men do that it actually borders on feeling pulpy I admit I was initially a bit concerned that this might be a simplistic novel of moral outrage focused on the obvious conflict between a righteous group A and a vicious group B but it turns out that Elgin s realistically complex world contains factions within factions women opposing men populists of all genders opposing an intellectual elite class elites slyly jockeying for power with andor outright backstabbing other elites alliances and friendships being struck across faction lines etc etc no one here is wholly innocent In this Native Tongue somewhat reminded me of another recent read I enjoyed than I first expected to William Browning Spencer s Zod Wallop which similarly blends authorial loftiness of mind with purely pleasurable plottiness


10 thoughts on “Native Tongue Native Tongue #1

  1. says:

    Read for book clubOK first off Suzette Haden Elgin is clearly a separatist who believed that both women and men would be better off apart from each other Not that she seemed to care much about what might be better for menI do not agree with th

  2. says:

    Absolutely excellent I know The Handmaid's Tale gets press and praise but this is a far realistic and chilling misogynist future There's really so much meaty stuff and I'm so far from elouent that I'll just say read it and leave it at that

  3. says:

    Noting the passing last week of Suzette Haden Elgin linguist verbal self defense teacher feminist genre writer founder of th

  4. says:

    This book had an amazing concept It was full of amazing ideas the creation of a secret language for an oppressed second class women Bu

  5. says:

    I'll never forgive the university professors who made me read this novel Some of the sci fi elements in it were interesting and it posed some compelling linguistic uestions but mostly it was just tiresome The majority of the narrative is the kind heavy handed man hating that has done to hurt the cause of feminism than further it E

  6. says:

    I first bought a copy of this book around the time that my poetry collection A History of the Cetacean American Diaspora placed second in the 2017 Elgin Awards an annual award bestowed on books of poetry by the Science Fiction and Fantasy Poetry Association SFPA The Elgin Awards are named in honor of author Suzette Hade

  7. says:

    Women have no rights and are the property of men Aliens communicate with humans through the families of the linguist 'Lines' who have a monopoly on learning Alien languages The women of the Lines as restricted and patronized as any other women have developed a secret language for women only If the men find out they're doomed But the Aliens are watching I read this book years ago it was published in 1984 and I

  8. says:

    45 stars Excellent story with well drawn characters both male and female and an original premise Recommended

  9. says:

    I enjoyed it the first time I read it I've studied Linguistics myself which made it interesting and I occasionally enjoy re reading But the re

  10. says:

    Considering how obsessed I am with dystopian science fiction I can't believe I never read this feminist cult classic until now It's not as well written as the Handmaid's Tale but it's still pretty amazing The stuff about language re

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