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At the age of twelve Jan Yoors ran away from his privileged cultured Belgian family and home to join a wandering band a kumpania of Gypsies For ten years he lived as one of them t. A LIFE CHANGING BOOK FOR ME I THINK I RECOGNIZED MY NAN MADE ME WANT TO LEARN MORE AND MORE

summary Gypsies author Jan Yoors

Gypsies author Jan Yoors

Sonal account of an extraordinary people Yoors tells the real story of the Gypsies' fascinating customs and their neverending struggle to survive as free nomads in a hostile world.. As a person of Romany decent who has been trained in the traditions of my people I can say with confidence that MUCH of the information in Jan Yoors authoritive text is inaccurate After being given a copy of The Gypsies I was very angry at how my culture and people were represented Some of the misinformation was laughable like that of The Gypsy King which seemed to take on a lot of importance in this book in reality we are largely matriarchal in our power structure so idea of our having a king was impossible In truth the Gypsy King was chosen during Summer Solstice celebrations and was of a fool it was a position that held no power or authority and nor does it to this dayLikely the individual who presented himself to Gorgers as the King was playing a trick of some sort for financial gainJan Yoors also told stories of Romany people buying simple medicines from drug stores and rebottling them to sell at an inflated price as magic curative potions I suppose some unscrupulous individuals or Tribes might have done such a thing but that would NEVER have been an accepted practice within the larger nomadic Tribal group All smaller Romany Tribal groups have legitimate healers with skills that have been passed down thru the generations for hundreds of years Beyond that there are entire Tribes who s focus is on traditional healing and the spirit world where daughters would go for training or to enter into an apprenticeship with a experienced practitioner The very idea that the Rom would bother to sell cough medicine as a Gypsy cure is ludicrous As a people the Romany are extremely private and would NEVER voluntarily share any significant details of Tribal life with an outsider never Romany are extremely black and white in their moral code and after reading Jan Yoors collection of stories I can only assume the Tribe he lived with was a smaller one living on the fringes of accepted behavior I did share an excerpt or two with my husband who is also Romany and he suggested that the things described could only take place in a small band who had formed of individuals who had been shamed in some way for their own conduct and forced to leave their own Tribes and were unable to find a respectable Tribe who would be willing to accept themThis does seem a reasonable possibility especially if they were having a difficult time providing for themselves and thought having a Gorger travel with them might increase revenue The idea that the author was accepted in is dubious though as traditionally all members of the Tribe s council in addition to any concerned Tribal members would need to come to a consensus regarding allowing anyone from outside the Tribe to join them That individual would be reuired to have skills that would bring enough wealth to contribute to the entire Tribe in addition to providing enough for his own needsIt would also necessitate that person s own Tribe entering into negotiations to account for the loss of a valuable member of their group and potentiality gifts to the new Tribe to make up for any lack in value carried by the prospective memberUltimately my husband and I ripped the book up and threw it out

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Raveled with them from country to country shared both their pleasures and their hardships and came to know them as no one no outsider ever has Here in this firsthand and highly per. If the author wanted to dispel gypsy stereotypes he sure as hell did not do a good job If you take gypsy stereotypes and take out the extreme once like actual witchcraft and sexual promiscuity you are pretty much left with the image the author presents of these LovarraAnd even though the book is called The gypsies the author makes it pretty clear early on that he is not interested in any gypsies that live sedentary of seminomadic like gitanoes gypsies of England Sinti and Rudari He outright says he is only writing about nomadic gypsies he seems to look down eg on the urban Kalderasha girls he says their disheveled appearance is some defense mechanism and considered totally normal and says they are not really Christian or Muslim it is only a thin veneer to hide their true religion which are exactly some of the stereotypes knownAnd he is not even consistent You see while some statements support the unkemptness of gypsies the author stated at the start others don t fit that at all and he almost seems to hesitate calling them strict in their rules He didn t want to call them Victorian but based on what he says their rules are just as strictIf what the author wrote here is true than these people are gypsies in every way There is no regular way of acuisition mentioned except theft for a long time no income except begging magic and fortune telling until late in the book when horse trading is mentioned They are xenophobic Constantly lie and blame the gaje for it and according to him they may not even be poor When the author wrote that Kore and another boy went to a nearby hamlet to offer to whet knives and sharpen and adjust scissors I hoped that finally there is some other income except begging magic and theft but nope They charmed the daughter into one scissor which they only gave back because Jan prodded Kore to who saw nothing bad in the theft and Jan excuses it with indifference to material possession In fact he tends to state gaje as evil uite uickly while excusing every Roma behavior The moment these Rom have an honest trade horses we get this story of how Jan and Nanosh rip off some Jewish tailor because they reason that their dresses are so extravagant that he can give it to no one else even if they cannot pay in full That is the reasoning of a swindlerI know the author tries to portray the Gaje as unjustifiably mistrustful and somehow the gypsies as justified at least he doesn t condemn it if all of them in the group act like Pulika and Kore I see no reason to trust them They are liars thieves xenophobic chauvinist and uite frankly when you are not one of them you cannot trust them at all At least based on what the author is writing The people he presents are insanely superstitious xenophobic and anti women Of course the author tries to excuse it or spin the latter as somehow something positive for women that half their body is considered impureIs it even verified that what he wrote happened You see the I read of this book the I suspected that the author misinterpreted things or made them up He claimed that gypsies have no Christianity but ancestor worship but so far except for that spell there was no ancestor worship he says they do not bond or want to associate with gaje but then they do it whenever there is opportunity to do it they have friendship and many even own land apparently The only thing consistent is that he excuses their criminal behaviorAnd he not only is hypocritical when it comes to Rom and Gaje but also between the different tribes or maybe even groups You see Pulika also claimed to have been King of the Gypsies once that was ok for the author but these other kings apparently only call themselves so out of vanity In fact the author seems to have a distain for them because they like to dress stylishly and being well groomed The other gypsies he claims to dress disheveled the kids even wipe their hands on their hair to give it a sheen and being thieves and liars but these kings are the vain onesHe described the Tshurara women in exactly the way many would have described his gypsies wild unkempt dirty the girls with awkward attractiveness And his Kore friend is totally judgmental about them Also I do wonder whether the author did not mix stereotypes with fact as we even had the they are actually rich clich and only when they almost terrorize the country side is he not ok with it He almost rants about the Tshurara contrasting them to the suddenly oh so disciplined Lovarra calling them completely undisciplined dirty and being the reason for the gaje hostility As if he is projecting Maybe the current hostility is due to the Tshurara wherever the book was currently but who knows He doesn t know and he claims the Tshurara only steal but how would he know When Tshurara girls basically invade a shop and trick the owner respectively steal from him the author comments this with that no gypsy would ever be welcome again in that place but when the Lovarra of his group do the same or something similar the conseuences are apparently not worth mentioning This double standard made me seriously considering stopping reading this Fonso whipped his sister on the face and hands because when Tsinoro s son had half heartedly pretended to abduct the bride her sigh was to Fonso a sigh of pleasure and that was too dishonorable for him And of course the author has no comment for that When Gaje and Tshurara do this or gorge themselves wildly he scolds them but his precious Lovarra get scolded barely What a hypocriteAnd some things really can only be excused by citing cultural differences because no other would work The author mentions a case where the mother of a baby was 12 or 13 years old which could mean childbirth is dangerous And yes she is married to a much older man and so the gypsy group here lies and if they want to lie to cover it up why on earth do they claim this obviously elderly woman is the mother Come to think about it apart from some exceptions the only women mentioned are elderly or girls combine that with everything prior and the statements of how often they falsify papers and citizenships this book is a tirade of gypsy stereotypesWhenever the author talks about what is gypsy like that true gypsy style is to have no change of clothes I cannot help but suspect that he is exaggerating or plain lying That someone has no other clothes is hard enough to belief but what about the gypsies who are not nomadic I guess they aren t true gypsies for him aka the guy is judgmental not because of any harm done but because it does not fit his viewsNot only does it appear as if the people he is living with don t really tell him anything as he learns apparently important stuff over and over anew but he comes along as an arrogant prick He referred to the language of the Cale or Gitanos of Spain as a language all their own much influenced by corrupt Spanish And unless corrupt has some meaning I am not aware of that is a derogatory statementAnd he even complains that the term gypsy is often and inaccurately used to connote romantic dreams of unfettered unrealizable freedom adolescent yearnings for a passionate way of life contempt for the menial or to specify any good for nothing vagrant of uestionable honesty which is ironic considering how much this describes the people he presented The most striking difference between what he claims and what I know was when he shortly mentioned Sinti Sinti themselves as far as I know do not say that the word means person or human being And I would not count on most being musicians and makers of stringent instruments even back then Right away I can only remember a few from the time of this book who did that Also they are smaller than the Roma and easily angered The women always clad in black I have seen lots of pictures from Sinti of the time and the women rather tended to dress like thisSo what is his statement based on And their tribal organization is matriarchal and marriage only by elopement And if their dialect is practically unintelligible to other gypsies can it really still be called a dialect Also he says it preserved the purest and most ancient forms of words and pronunciations who have lost most of the original inflections and have to a large extent substituted faulty German grammatical structure for their own Wow this guy is condescending And how does he even know that Not to mention that a Lovarra here apologizes to his ancestors the mule for relying on the Blessed Virgin of the Gaje Based on everything I ever read and heard about Sinti they are usually the direct opposite of these Lowara in this regardNot to mention considered that then author stated that the Rom follow no form or ritual they sure as hell seem to be overburdened with ritual customs laws and the likeSo yeah the book seems uite contradictory and the title is misleading At best it should have been called The LovarraPS Only towards the end do we ever get told where the group actually is that time in Paris prior it was always so vague that it could be anywhere thereby invoking another gypsy stereotype Just like the claims that these gypsies chose their life and that they want to wander all the time


10 thoughts on “Gypsies author Jan Yoors

  1. says:

    ROAMING WITH THE ROMAI first learned of the existence of this extraordinarily fascinating book by Jan Yoors when I was reading Fonseca's book about gypsies Roma Bury me Standing Published in 1967 this book is available from on line second hand storesSometime in between the 2 world wars Jan Yoor a young Belgian teenager did something very unusual He ran away with the gypsies He joined a group 'kumpania' of Roma camping near to his home and

  2. says:

    If you are trying to understand how gypsies think reason and behave this is one book I can recommend but I learned that there are gyp

  3. says:

    A LIFE CHANGING BOOK FOR ME I THINK I RECOGNIZED MY NAN MADE ME WANT TO LEARN MORE AND MORE

  4. says:

    If the author wanted to dispel gypsy stereotypes he sure as hell did not do a good job If you take gypsy stereotypes and take out the extreme once like actual witchcraft and sexual promiscuity you are pretty much left with the image the author presents of these LovarraAnd even though the book is called The gypsies the au

  5. says:

    I have read one other book on the Gypsies Australian Gypsies Their Secret History which is written in recent times through various interviews The stereotype Gypsy is dispelled in both books but this one is far personnel and embracingYoors leaves home with his parents permission and joins a family of Gypsies with this book taking hi

  6. says:

    This book is written as a protest against oblivion as a cry of love for this race of strangers who have lived among us for centuries and remained apart With this poetic beginning Jan Yoors tells us the story of his life as he left hi

  7. says:

    Honestly I enjoyed this book and learned a little about Romani customs but a lot of the book seems completely unlikely it is suppose to be the factual account of a boy who was taken in by a traveling group of Roman

  8. says:

    As a person of Romany decent who has been trained in the traditions of my people I can say with confidence that MUCH of the information in Jan Yoors authoritive text is inaccurate After being given a copy of The Gypsies I was very angry at how my culture and people were represented Some of the misinformation was laughable like that of The Gypsy King which seemed to take on a lot of importance in this book; i

  9. says:

    I first found this book in the Seventies on the bookshelves of Weiser's in NYC I lent the paperback to a friend who never returned it because he fell in love with it too It is still my favorite and the most beaut

  10. says:

    I read this probably 30 years ago and was entranced by this unusual tale One has to wonder what sort of parents would allow their son to run away with the Gypsies uite regularly but when you read the book you are glad that they did so I cannot compare it to any other book I have ever read This is an inside fond but honest look at gypsy life as it existed then Many years later the author tried to find the gypsies he rem

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